PWTORCH.COM
VIP SIGN-UP JUMP TO VIP
CONTACT US VISIT MMA TORCH




Select Next Article by Category



WE ARE A PROUD UGO AFFILIATE SINCE 1999

 




Pro Wrestling Illustrated

Support Our Sponsor: PWI!

===========================

CHECK OUT OUR AFFILIATE WRESTLING NEWS SITE - THE FASTEST GROWING PRO WRESTLING SITE IN 2008! (click on logo)

prowrestling.NET




Torch Feedback
WWE Raw Reax #2: "Having a photo shoot at Playboy seems to have cured Maria's ditziness."
Mar 4, 2008 - 1:49:57 PM


Email This Article- Contact Us - VIP Sign-Up - Back to Home Page

| subscribe to this feed

Adam J. Grammas of Westchester, Ill. (2.0): Best: Ending of main event. Worst: Show-Hill-Mayweather. When is Vince going to learn the boxing thing doesn't work? Mike Tyson worked because they knew it was better to make him a "heel" against Stone Cold going into the match. But with all these other guys (Douglas, Butterbean, etc), they try to position the boxer as the babyface and the fans see them as invaders to the wrestling world, so they consider them the bad guys. There was zero reaction for this "Thriller" guy they brought out and it seemed JR & King didn't know what to say for the first few minutes of the "match". Then Hill does these Three Stooges type bumps. The post-match discussion between Show and Mayweather was just as bad. Since when does Show talk in ghetto slang-"Yo' mouth is writin' checks yo' ass can't cash!"? They only highlight was the shot of him dumping Hill outside the ring because when shot from behind, it looked like he was dumping him off a cliff. I don't know many rednecks with a robe like Murdoch had on. I remember a cheesy TNT skit with Terry Funk and Tony Garea fighting in a totally fake bar. That segment was better than the horrible clip with Carlito and Maria. Having a photo shoot at Playboy seems to have cured Maria's ditziness. When Maria has a blank look on her face, she resembles Paris Hilton and that's not a good thing. Cody is really looking like Pops with the bags under his eyes. Please let this Hornswoggle thing be over after Mania - or sooner. A good ending to the main event with Orton standing tall, but if TNA put a wrestler in charge and they never went back to show him making decisions, everyone would be complaining.

Adam Riemer of Brooklyn, N.Y. (4.0): Best Match: Hardy/Jericho & HBK/Flai confrontations. Worst Match: Can you really pick just one? Okay, I didn't watch anything, but WWE last night. But I wish I did. I remember when the "Road To WrestleMania" meant something. It was a precurser that something great was coming, something fun and something worthwhile. That something was WrestleMania. But what do we get now? A cop out of the Hornswoggle/McMahon angle, which by the way, Vince seems pretty indifferent as to who in his family was working with Finlay to set him up. JBL is annoying; he is trying to be a monster heel, but it just doesn't work. Cena? Me and 400 million other fans have been beggin' for the heel turn for two years now, but it isn't going to happen, so instead we get a guy who trys to be a face but in return only makes the heels get cheered. The HBK/Flair angle got interesting, it would be nice if they turned HBK heel to add something new, but that will never happen, so instead I am sure this is leading to the quick turn like HBK did with Hogan and then right back to being a face again when it is over. Hardy and Jericho need an angle with each other alone, and it would be a money angle if they feuded over the WWE Title. Maria & Playboy vs. Santino was done years ago by Eddie and Chyna, so that isn't anything new. Lastly, I never was interested in the whole Big Show vs. Mayweather angle, but now I detest it. Mayeather is terrible on the mic; his constantly saying he is going to fly his jet right now to fight Show was annoying (does he have fighter jet or something that would go fast enough for him to get there in a two hour window?), and he is coming off as a total heel. How are we as WWE fans suppose to take it when some boxer comes in and says he is the "show" and he is taking over? Personally I hope Show botches a punch at Mania and actually knocks Mayweather out.

Terrie Neilson of Las Vegas, Nev. (7.0): Best: Michaels promo; Highlight Reel; Carlito-Maria WM24 commercial Worst: Show-Mayweather content. WrestleMania is less than 30 days away, right? That's what the graphic says. Didn't really feel like it. We have WrestleMania to Backlash 2006 with the round-robin build toward the triple threat. The three guys work well together, but for it's deja vu all over again. Tonight's segment toward the eventual Show-Mayweather match was absolutely horrible and crowd crapped decisively over it all. The less said about how bad it was the better, except to say: as much as I despised Mike Tyson ten years ago, WWE did everything right regarding his WrestleMania involvement. The lesson went unlearned. The Highlight Reel was fine in making the every-man-for-himself statement. Funny, though, I'm hearing each getting booed: Chris for his verbal statement; Jeff for his Twist Of Fate. That was a little surreal. Maria seemingly broke from character tonight throughout her segment; I actually marked out for it. Raw has four qualifiers for the MITB match now, ECW one, and none for Smackdown. That just seems wrong. Mae Young for the Hall Of Fame. I can accept that (especially after seeing the bio footage that actually took her seriously for a bit)...but who will do the honors with Moolah gone? The whole JBL-Finlay thing didn't click either, with me or the crowd. Some great potential blown there. Shawn's post-match promo was very well done, but I'm not sure if the response received was intended. The few boos there were didn't last very long; instead, the boos were replaced by Whoos, as if they really didn't want to boo Shawn. Shawn has two precedents to work with in terms of an idolizer-idolized match, Michaels-Hogan and Triple H-Flair (2005), so it was done well not to repeat those stories to the letter. If there is a turn to be taken, though I hope it isn't, the reason behind it parallels a bit closer to the Triple H-Flair match and how we want to see our pedestalized heroes. I'm working with the assumption that Flair had been insistent with Shawn being in this match since last week, though the out-and-out lack of exposure on Smackdown didn't help one bit. A promo by Flair on Smackdown about this match could have helped Shawn's second-thoughts response tonight, but I won't penalize Raw for Smackdown.

(More Real News: Exclusive backstage news on Batista's reputation and how Chris Benoit's absence has affected it (via dotNet))

We welcome your 1-10 score and comments on this show for a "Raw Reax" feature in the Torch Feedback section of PWTorch.com. Just to add a twist to this feature, include not just your hometown, but also your occupation (mechanic, lawyer, stay-at-home-dad, college student, etc.) so readers get a flavor for what everyone does as "day jobs." To contribute your thoughts on Raw, click here.

For more BREAKING NEWS on WWE, TNA, ROH
visit our co-affiliate: JASON POWELL'S PROWRESTLING.NET

REACT TO THIS STORY IN OUR FREE PWTORCH FORUM

PWTORCH VIP SIGN-UP INFO - NO ADS, EXCLUSIVE CONTENT

| subscribe to this feed

Torch Feedback
Latest Articles by Category
TNA Impact Reax #1: "TNA continues to shoot itself in the foot with the overemphasis on gimmick matches thus burning out the novelty."
WWE Raw Reax #5: "C.M. Punk is not being booked effectively. No World Champion should have to wrestle during the first hour."
WWE ECW Reax #1: "Philadelphia, I know ECW probably has disappointed you a lot this past year, but please give them a chance."
Letters to the Editor: Ventura Disappointment, Kane Theory, JBL-Cena, Raw Ratings Drop
WWE Raw Reax #4: "This show would have ranked a bit higher for me before that stupid 'car wreck' finish."
WWE Raw Reax #3: "Cena gave the promo he should have in the first place, the intense take-no-prisoners kind."
WWE Raw Reax #2: "The reason my score dropped was the utterly ridiculous way they did the parking lot encounter of JBL and Cena."
WWE Raw Reax #1: "After years of slagging them, the WWE deserves a pat on the back for giving us some smart, fresh television."
WWE Smackdown Reax #1: "Having Vickie fall back in love with Edge was both sickening and great TV."
WWE ECW Reax #1: "Poor Chris Harris was left to his own devices to try and make his debut match worth something."
WWE Raw Reax #3: "And truly - has John Cena ever been worse? He was a train wreck last night."
WWE Raw Reax #2: "Somebody needs to sit Cena down and tell him that while he may be a charming guy, he has a terrible sense of humor."

(c) 1999-2008 TDH Communications Inc. - All rights reserved.

Latest Free Podcasts
PWTorch Free Podcast
FREE PODCAST: Excerpt of "The Audio Experience" with Dusty & Eric (07-17-08)
FREE PWTORCH PODCAST: TNA Victory Road PPV Audio Roundtable with Keller, Mitchell, McNeill
FREE PODCAST: UFC PPV Analysis (Rampage vs. Forrest) in-depth with MMATorch's Shawn Ennis and John Taylor
FREE PODCAST: PWTorch editor Wade Keller's in-depth reaction to the June 30 Raw, Punk's win, New Faces Pushed
FREE PODCAST: Keller and Mitchell analyze the monumental WWE Draft on Monday (6-25-08)
FREE PODCAST: Daily Keller Hotline with in-depth analysis and reaction to Raw (6-16-08)


PWTORCH READER POLL

JBL attempting to crush John Cena with a car at the end of Raw was...
A totally off the charts great idea!
A cool idea, depending on the follow-up.
Eh. Just one of those over-the-top WWE angles.
Bad idea. Groan inducing, actually.
One of the worst finishes to Raw ever.
  


VOTE IN OR SEE RESULTS OF PREVIOUS POLLS

UPCOMING EVENTS LISTING

Articles Grouped by Category
Torch Today
TORCH NEWS TICKER 7/20: Bash PPV preview, CW prez upsets critics, Punk interview, title belt process detailed
New Volunteer Contributors Wanted: Apply this week to be part of PWTorch.com!
TORCH NEWS TICKER 7/12: TNA PPV preview and notes for tonight, Mark Henry interview, Keibler at Comic-Con
WWE News
Interview Highlights: Ted DiBiase talks about his book, business philosophy, trainers, JBL comparisons, Ultimate Warrior
7/15 WWE in Charlotte, N.C.: Complete Smackdown taping report including tag partners facing off
Ratings News: ECW ratings hold steady, headlined with the Hardys, up against Major League Baseball All-Star Game (w/Keller's Analysis)
TNA News
7/15 TNA Impact tapings in Orlando, Fla.: Victory Road follow-up, Cornette addresses Booker-Joe controversy
TNA Impact Ratings: Final Impact before Victory Road draws strong final 30 minute rating for final PPV hype (w/Keller Analysis)
Interview Highlights: Booker T discusses his time in TNA, Sunday's PPV main event, retirement thoughts, more
ROH News
ROH News: Lance Storm interview on working with ROH wrestlers and injuries in pro wrestling
ROH News: ROH to continue on PPV, Lance Storm returns to ROH, KOCH DVD update
Torch Indy Weekend Report: Balls vs. Abyss, Lynn, Strong & Evans in PWG, Danny Havoc in CZW
Other News
Interview Highlights: Jesse Ventura announces whether he will run for Senate this year on CNN's Larry King Live tonight (w/Keller Analysis)
Torch Indy Weekend Report: Black over Lynn in AAW, Castagnoli, Delirious in Chikara, Basham, ODB
Torch Indy Weekend Report: Hero wins PWG title, Moose breaks leg, Shimmer taping, Briscoe fired
PPV Reports
KELLER'S TNA VICTORY ROAD PPV REPORT 7/13: Ongoing "virtual time" coverage of live event from Houston
CALDWELL'S TNA VICTORY ROAD PPV REPORT 7/13: Live on-site coverage from Houston
KELLER'S WWE NIGHT OF THE CHAMPIONS PPV REPORT 6/29: Ongoing "virtual time" coverage of event
TV Reports
KELLER'S TNA IMPACT REPORT 7/17: A ruling on the ownership and possession of the TNA World Championship, 10-Woman Gauntlet
KELLER'S WWE SMACKDOWN REPORT 7/18: Edge and Vickie get married, then Triple H presents them with a devastating surprise video
7/18 WWE SMACKDOWN: Parks's Ongoing "Real-Time" Coverage of the Edge-Vickie Wedding Show
Arena Reports
7/19 TNA in Monroe: Machismo vs. Dutt, Petey vs. Kaz, LAX vs. Guns, Styles vs. Angle, Tomko vs. Christian
7/14 WWE Smackdown in Ashville, N.C.: Michelle McCool & Cherry vs. Victoria & Maryse, Jeff Hardy vs. Edge, Khali vs. Bourne
7/15 TNA Impact tapings in Orlando, Fla.: Victory Road follow-up, Cornette addresses Booker-Joe controversy
MMA / UFC Coverage
Torch MMA Rankings, California's MMA Rules, Vera Makes Claim, Victor Belford, Machida, UFC PPV
Torch coverage of Rampage Jackson vs. Forrest Griffin, plus Brandon Vera Exclusive Interview, more!
UFC News: Dana White reveals major announcement regarding UFC - full story and analysis
KELLER'S TAKE
KELLER: An overhaul is in order for Raw before ratings drop further - several specific suggestions
KELLER: McMahon Returns for That? Nothing Funnier than a DUI! Let Me Shift So You Can Hit Me!
A KELLER SHORT: Should Mr. Kennedy be a babyface; coffee shop eavesdropping
MITCHELL'S TAKE
MITCHELL'S MEMO: A Prayer For The Business - Michaels delivers profound message during Jericho promo
A MITCHELL SHORT: More Important Info Regarding The WWE McMahon Million Dollar Giveaway
MITCHELL: TNA's Grass Roots Approach To House Shows
MCNEILL'S TAKE
Move To The Music: McNEILL previews WWE's Great American Bash!
Fans' Revenge: McNEILL previews TNA Victory Road!
Paul, I Can't Feel My Legs: McNEILL previews Night of Champions!
CALDWELL'S TAKE
CORNER CUBE THURSDAY 7/17 - "Bigger, Stronger, Faster*" review: Most-important movie you'll see this year
CORNER CUBE WEDNESDAY 7/16 - ECW, Uggla, and Rampage make for an interesting night
CORNER CUBE MONDAY 7/14 - TNA booking way behind the rest of the company
RADICAN'S TAKE
WEEKEND DVD SPOTLIGHT: SHIMMER Vol. 18 (Kong-Busic,Del Rey-MsChif)
TALES FROM THE PULPIT 7/18: Passionate reader feedback on Victory Road, mainstream perception of pro wrestling, and more!
TALES FROM THE PULPIT 7/17: Randazzo’s “Ring of Hell” offers up all of the problems within wrestling, but ultimately offers no solutions
The Specialists
ECW Storylines and Feuds - More on Mark Henry's and Tony Atlas's characters, plus the Chavo-Bourne feud
Raw Storylines and Feuds - Complete overview of the feuds including Punk-Batista, Cena-JBL, and Y2J-HBK
PARKER'S PENNY THOUGHTS: FRIDAY: 7/18: Is Ric Flair the Savior of wwe.com?
Guest Editorials
EDITORIAL: The latest TNA PPV is probably a prime example of why I don't buy their PPVs
EDITORIAL: John Cena Needs to Turn Heel - A.S.A.P.
WWE Raw Reax #2: "Why wasn't Triple H a little upset for McMahon throwing Flair out the building?"
Torch Feedback
TNA Impact Reax #1: "TNA continues to shoot itself in the foot with the overemphasis on gimmick matches thus burning out the novelty."
WWE Raw Reax #5: "C.M. Punk is not being booked effectively. No World Champion should have to wrestle during the first hour."
WWE ECW Reax #1: "Philadelphia, I know ECW probably has disappointed you a lot this past year, but please give them a chance."
Ask the Editor
Ask the Editor: Wouldn't incorporating MMA-style holds into pro wrestling matches just be trying to be something it's not?
ASK THE EDITOR: Have the Michaels-Batista promos crossed a line with use of insider terms, references to "jobs"?
ASK THE EDITOR: Why do wrestlers in WWE refer to wrestling as "the business" and not "the sport"?
DVDs - VGames - Books
WEEKEND DVD SPOTLIGHT: SHIMMER Vol. 18 (Kong-Busic,Del Rey-MsChif)
RADICAN: Al Snow discusses his wrestling career, philosophy, time in OVW, and more in new interview
DVD Review: ROH "Glory By Honor VI, N2" with Kenta vs. Misawa, 110307
Torch Flashbacks
KELLER'S WWE SMACKDOWN REPORT 5 YRS. AGO (7-17-08): Cena attacks Taker, plus Benoit, Angle, Eddie, Rhyno, Lesnar, Zach Gowen, Sable
FREE - PWTORCH NEWSLETTER BACK ISSUE (PDF Format): Foley Torch Talk, Kane mess, Cornette compliments, Bret on Montreal
KELLER'S TNA REPORT 5 YRS. AGO (7-16-03): Russo vs. D-Lo main events show, plus Raven, Sabin, Jarrett, Justin, Kaz, Sting
VIP Exclusive Features
Radican Audio Spectacular with Burgan: All-ROH - News, DVD Covers, Podcasts, More (65 min.)
Mitchell Audio Show, pt. 2: Listener questions on Dallas Page's Rep, Dark Journey-Dick Slater, Black Scorpion (45 min.)
Mitchell Audio Show, pt. 1: JBL tries to kill Cena on Raw, Samoa Joe-Booker, Bash PPV Preview (58 min.)
Torch Trivia
Torch Trivia: How much do you know about wrestling's vehicular assaults?
Torch Trivia: How much do you know about multiple-man matches?
Torch Trivia: How much do you know about short title reigns?
Torch Instant Polls
POLL: JBL attempting to crush John Cena with a car at the end of Raw was or was not a good idea?
PWTORCH POLL: Who was the MVP of the June 30 episode of WWE Raw? Punk? Batista? Edge? Ross? Jericho?...
POLL: Which person's career was likely hurt the most by being drafted?
PWTorch Free Podcast
FREE PODCAST: Excerpt of "The Audio Experience" with Dusty & Eric (07-17-08)
FREE PWTORCH PODCAST: TNA Victory Road PPV Audio Roundtable with Keller, Mitchell, McNeill
FREE PODCAST: UFC PPV Analysis (Rampage vs. Forrest) in-depth with MMATorch's Shawn Ennis and John Taylor
Annual Obituaries
SPECIALIST: List of Deceased Wrestlers for 1999 - Muchnick, Rick Rude, Owen Hart, Renegade...
SPECIALIST: List of Deceased Wrestlers for 2000 - Solie, Albright, Duncum, Tsuruta, Blue Demon, Al Costello
SPECIALIST: List of Deceased Wrestlers for 2001: Johnny Valentine, Terry Gordy, Chris Adams, Bertha Faye, Helen Hart