{"id":215739,"date":"2026-04-30T22:00:02","date_gmt":"2026-05-01T03:00:02","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.pwtorch.com\/site\/?post_type=podcast&#038;p=215739"},"modified":"2026-04-30T15:33:12","modified_gmt":"2026-04-30T20:33:12","slug":"wkpwp-15-yrs-ago-livecasts-exploring-why-fans-disliked-cena-zigglers-new-look-lethals-release-tna-rebranding-angle-hogan-flair-more-ad-free-80-min","status":"publish","type":"podcast","link":"https:\/\/www.pwtorch.com\/site\/podcast\/wkpwp-15-yrs-ago-livecasts-exploring-why-fans-disliked-cena-zigglers-new-look-lethals-release-tna-rebranding-angle-hogan-flair-more-ad-free-80-min\/","title":{"rendered":"WKPWP 15 Yrs Ago Livecasts: Exploring why fans disliked Cena, Ziggler&#8217;s new look, Lethal&#8217;s release, TNA rebranding, Angle, Hogan, Flair, more (Ad-Free &#8211; 80 min.)"},"content":{"rendered":"<div id=\"pwtor-820858691\" class=\"pwtor-before-content pwtor-entity-placement\"><hr \/><b>SPOTLIGHTED PODCAST ALERT (YOUR ARTICLE BEGINS A FEW INCHES DOWN)... <\/b>\r\n\r\n<iframe src=\"https:\/\/widget.spreaker.com\/player?show_id=3076978&theme=light&playlist=false&playlist-continuous=false&autoplay=false&live-autoplay=false&chapters-image=true&episode_image_position=right&hide-logo=false&hide-likes=false&hide-comments=false&hide-sharing=false&hide-download=true\" width=\"100%\" height=\"140px\" frameborder=\"0\"><\/iframe>\r\n<hr \/><\/div><p><strong>SHOW SUMMARY: <\/strong>Today we jump back 15 years to the Apr. 21, 2011 episode of the PWTorch Livecast with PWTorch editor Wade Keller and James Caldwell, they discuss TNA&#8217;s plans to run outdoor house shows this summer and the departure of Jay Lethal. 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