{"id":218973,"date":"2026-07-06T13:37:17","date_gmt":"2026-07-06T18:37:17","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.pwtorch.com\/site\/?post_type=podcast&#038;p=218973"},"modified":"2026-07-06T13:37:17","modified_gmt":"2026-07-06T18:37:17","slug":"pwtorch-dailycast-worse-or-better-episode-12-across-the-universes-steph-josh-talk-about-cross-promotion-between-wrestling-companies-ad-free-114-min","status":"publish","type":"podcast","link":"https:\/\/www.pwtorch.com\/site\/podcast\/pwtorch-dailycast-worse-or-better-episode-12-across-the-universes-steph-josh-talk-about-cross-promotion-between-wrestling-companies-ad-free-114-min\/","title":{"rendered":"PWTorch Dailycast \u2013 Worse or Better (Episode 12 &#8211; Across the Universes): Steph &#038; Josh talk about cross-promotion between wrestling companies (Ad-Free &#8211; 114 min.)"},"content":{"rendered":"<div id=\"pwtor-278503549\" class=\"pwtor-before-content pwtor-entity-placement\"><hr \/><b>SPOTLIGHTED PODCAST ALERT (YOUR ARTICLE BEGINS A FEW INCHES DOWN)... <\/b>\r\n\r\n<iframe src=\"https:\/\/widget.spreaker.com\/player?show_id=3076978&theme=light&playlist=false&playlist-continuous=false&autoplay=false&live-autoplay=false&chapters-image=true&episode_image_position=right&hide-logo=false&hide-likes=false&hide-comments=false&hide-sharing=false&hide-download=true\" width=\"100%\" height=\"140px\" frameborder=\"0\"><\/iframe>\r\n<hr \/><\/div><p><strong>SHOW SUMMARY: <\/strong>In this PWTorch Dailycast series titled &#8220;Worse or Better,&#8221; Josh White and Stephanie Chase discuss one aspect of today&#8217;s pro wrestling scene and compare it to a previous era or eras and decide if today is&#8230; worse or better. 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