{"id":219094,"date":"2026-07-08T22:00:09","date_gmt":"2026-07-09T03:00:09","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.pwtorch.com\/site\/?post_type=podcast&#038;p=219094"},"modified":"2026-07-08T18:09:22","modified_gmt":"2026-07-08T23:09:22","slug":"wkpwp-mailbag-flashback-7-8-2021-hangman-dark-order-malakai-black-debut-true-heels-in-2021-cena-rock-more-2011-flagship-flashback-ad-free-119-min","status":"publish","type":"podcast","link":"https:\/\/www.pwtorch.com\/site\/podcast\/wkpwp-mailbag-flashback-7-8-2021-hangman-dark-order-malakai-black-debut-true-heels-in-2021-cena-rock-more-2011-flagship-flashback-ad-free-119-min\/","title":{"rendered":"WKPWP Mailbag Flashback: (7-8-2021) Hangman-Dark Order, Malakai Black debut, true heels in 2021, Cena-Rock, more + 2011 Flagship Flashback (Ad-Free &#8211; 119 min.)"},"content":{"rendered":"<div id=\"pwtor-556095340\" class=\"pwtor-before-content pwtor-entity-placement\"><hr \/><b>SPOTLIGHTED PODCAST ALERT (YOUR ARTICLE BEGINS A FEW INCHES DOWN)... <\/b>\r\n\r\n<iframe src=\"https:\/\/widget.spreaker.com\/player?show_id=3076978&theme=light&playlist=false&playlist-continuous=false&autoplay=false&live-autoplay=false&chapters-image=true&episode_image_position=right&hide-logo=false&hide-likes=false&hide-comments=false&hide-sharing=false&hide-download=true\" width=\"100%\" height=\"140px\" frameborder=\"0\"><\/iframe>\r\n<hr \/><\/div><p><strong>SHOW SUMMARY: <\/strong>In a special Mailbag episode of the Wade Keller Pro Wrestling Podcast from five years ago (7-8-2021) PWTorch editor Wade Keller reads and responds to new Mailbag questions on &#8220;Hangman&#8221; Adam Page and Dark Order, the debut of Malakai Black in AEW, was it possible to have true heels in 2021, and more.<\/p>\n<p>Then, in a podcast from ten years earlier (7-5-11), Wade was joined by ProWrestling.net\u2019s Jason Powell to discuss the Vince McMahon-John Cena angle on Raw, the Cruiserweight Division, the prospects of Cena vs. Rock, R-Truth, The Miz, TNA Impact, Forgotten Storyline Cliffhangers, Eric Bischoff and Dixie Carter, and more including a running bit on Canada Day vs. The Fourth of July. 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