{"id":223564,"date":"2026-10-12T13:00:47","date_gmt":"2026-10-12T18:00:47","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.pwtorch.com\/site\/?post_type=podcast&#038;p=223564"},"modified":"2026-10-12T13:00:47","modified_gmt":"2026-10-12T18:00:47","slug":"pwtorch-dailycast-worse-or-better-always-use-protection-the-kickout-method-is-only-80-effective-white-lansdell-consider-the-current-epidemic-of-finisher-kickouts-ad-free-84-min","status":"publish","type":"podcast","link":"https:\/\/www.pwtorch.com\/site\/podcast\/pwtorch-dailycast-worse-or-better-always-use-protection-the-kickout-method-is-only-80-effective-white-lansdell-consider-the-current-epidemic-of-finisher-kickouts-ad-free-84-min\/","title":{"rendered":"PWTorch Dailycast \u2013 Worse or Better (Always Use Protection; the Kickout Method Is Only 80% Effective): White &#038; Lansdell consider the current epidemic of finisher kickouts (Ad-Free &#8211; 84 min.)"},"content":{"rendered":"<div id=\"pwtor-1437003982\" class=\"pwtor-before-content pwtor-entity-placement\"><hr \/><b>SPOTLIGHTED PODCAST ALERT (YOUR ARTICLE BEGINS A FEW INCHES DOWN)... <\/b>\r\n\r\n<iframe src=\"https:\/\/widget.spreaker.com\/player?show_id=3076978&theme=light&playlist=false&playlist-continuous=false&autoplay=false&live-autoplay=false&chapters-image=true&episode_image_position=right&hide-logo=false&hide-likes=false&hide-comments=false&hide-sharing=false&hide-download=true\" width=\"100%\" height=\"140px\" frameborder=\"0\"><\/iframe>\r\n<hr \/><\/div><p><strong>SHOW SUMMARY: <\/strong>In this PWTorch Dailycast series titled &#8220;Worse or Better,&#8221; Josh White and a guest discuss one aspect of today&#8217;s pro wrestling scene and compare it to previous eras and decide if today is&#8230; worse or better. 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