{"id":30732,"date":"2016-08-31T21:58:17","date_gmt":"2016-09-01T02:58:17","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.pwtorch.com\/site\/?post_type=podcast&#038;p=30732"},"modified":"2016-08-31T21:59:48","modified_gmt":"2016-09-01T02:59:48","slug":"vip-audio-831-wkh-ask-editor-romanticizing-past-lament-fans-cheering-heel-kevin-owens-winning-universal-title-raw-36-min","status":"publish","type":"podcast","link":"https:\/\/www.pwtorch.com\/site\/podcast\/vip-audio-831-wkh-ask-editor-romanticizing-past-lament-fans-cheering-heel-kevin-owens-winning-universal-title-raw-36-min\/","title":{"rendered":"VIP AUDIO 8\/31 \u2013 WKH \u2013 Ask the Editor: Are you romanticizing the past when you lament fans cheering heel Kevin Owens winning the Universal Title on Raw? (36 min)"},"content":{"rendered":"<div id=\"pwtor-4006588398\" class=\"pwtor-before-content pwtor-entity-placement\"><hr \/><b>SPOTLIGHTED PODCAST ALERT (YOUR ARTICLE BEGINS A FEW INCHES DOWN)... <\/b>\r\n\r\n<iframe src=\"https:\/\/widget.spreaker.com\/player?show_id=3076978&theme=light&playlist=false&playlist-continuous=false&autoplay=false&live-autoplay=false&chapters-image=true&episode_image_position=right&hide-logo=false&hide-likes=false&hide-comments=false&hide-sharing=false&hide-download=true\" width=\"100%\" height=\"140px\" frameborder=\"0\"><\/iframe>\r\n<hr \/><\/div><p><strong>SHOW SUMMARY:<\/strong> In this\u00a0edition of the Wade Keller Hotline, PWTorch editor Wade Keller presents the Ask the Editor format covering\u00a0a single topic, and here&#8217;s the VIP member question:<\/p>\n<p dir=\"ltr\" style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">I&#8217;m listening to your mid-week Livecast (8\/31 episode) right now and really enjoying your conversation about cheering Kevin Owens.<\/p>\n<p dir=\"ltr\" style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">I&#8217;m having problems relating to your, and your callers&#8217;, objections to cheering for Kevin Owens as a heel after he has won a championship.\u00a0 Is your objection that it ruins the narrative structure or that it exposes the fact that fans know better than to buy into the narrative structure? Is it due to a failed bad guy or fans loving the real guy who plays the bad guy?<\/p>\n<p dir=\"ltr\" style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">I love Jim Valley&#8217;s concept a &#8220;weird work\/shoot amalgamation.&#8221;\u00a0 That&#8217;s what it is; people are cheering for Kevin Steen, not Kevin Owens, and saying that he deserves that championship, which he does, even though his character on TV may not.<\/p>\n<p dir=\"ltr\" style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">I feel like these types of criticisms are clinging onto times in wrestling where kayfabe was all we knew. WWE flat out tells us it&#8217;s all a work by exposing themselves behind the scenes on a daily basis.\u00a0 The only time they refuse to do so is through the mics of the announcers, which is interesting.<\/p>\n<p dir=\"ltr\" style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">I do like your point about &#8220;creating a monster&#8221; with their lack of consistency in their narrative structure.\u00a0 I&#8217;m hoping you can elaborate on this dilemma with more nuance.\u00a0 I keep wanting to tell you &#8220;you&#8217;re too romantic about the past&#8221;\u00a0 and I eagerly await your response.<\/p>\n<p dir=\"ltr\" style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">Thanks Wade, I&#8217;m really enjoying your coverage these days.<\/p>\n<p dir=\"ltr\" style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">Jeff<br \/>\nSeattle<\/p><div id=\"pwtor-3658266272\" class=\"pwtor-content pwtor-entity-placement\"><div align=\"center\" data-freestar-ad=\"__336x280 __336x280\" id=\"pwtorchcom_test_300x250\">\r\n  <script data-cfasync=\"false\" type=\"text\/javascript\">\r\n    freestar.config.enabled_slots.push({ placementName: \"pwtorchcom_test_300x250\", slotId: \"pwtorchcom_test_300x250\" });\r\n  <\/script>\r\n<\/div><\/div>\n<p><strong>APP USERS:<\/strong> If you are a VIP member accessing this on our app, scroll to the VIP AUDIO LINK below or we also recommend you access audio via a third-party podcast app for iPhone or Android (<a href=\"http:\/\/vip.pwtorch.com\/faq\/vip-audio-tips\/\">here\u2019s our list of recommended apps<\/a>) or via our ad-free VIP Mobile Site\u2019s <a href=\"http:\/\/vip.pwtorch.com\/category\/vipexclusives\/vipaudioshows\/\">VIP Audio Show Listing<\/a> from which you can directly stream or download the shows.<\/p>\n<div class=\"mh-content-ad\"><strong>NOT VIP? 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