{"id":106720,"date":"2020-10-21T15:21:26","date_gmt":"2020-10-21T20:21:26","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.pwtorch.com\/site\/?p=106720"},"modified":"2020-10-24T15:13:19","modified_gmt":"2020-10-24T20:13:19","slug":"wwe-hits-misses-10-19-styles-vs-riddle-fiend-retribution-hurt-business-opening-chaos-elias-concert-otis-as-el-gran-gordo-lee-vs-strowman-general-draft-fallout","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.pwtorch.com\/site\/2020\/10\/21\/wwe-hits-misses-10-19-styles-vs-riddle-fiend-retribution-hurt-business-opening-chaos-elias-concert-otis-as-el-gran-gordo-lee-vs-strowman-general-draft-fallout\/","title":{"rendered":"WWE RAW HITS &#038; MISSES 10\/19: Styles vs. Riddle, Fiend-Retribution-Hurt Business opening chaos, Elias concert, Otis as &#8220;El Gran Gordo,&#8221; Lee vs. Strowman, general Draft fallout"},"content":{"rendered":"<div id=\"pwtor-2505022280\" class=\"pwtor-before-content pwtor-entity-placement\"><hr \/><b>SPOTLIGHTED PODCAST ALERT (YOUR ARTICLE BEGINS A FEW INCHES DOWN)... <\/b>\r\n\r\n<iframe src=\"https:\/\/widget.spreaker.com\/player?show_id=3076978&theme=light&playlist=false&playlist-continuous=false&autoplay=false&live-autoplay=false&chapters-image=true&episode_image_position=right&hide-logo=false&hide-likes=false&hide-comments=false&hide-sharing=false&hide-download=true\" width=\"100%\" height=\"140px\" frameborder=\"0\"><\/iframe>\r\n<hr \/><\/div><p><b>Fiend\/Retribution\/Hurt Business Start the Show &#8211; MISS: <\/b> This was a mess. I don\u2019t understand the dynamic between Retribution, The Hurt Business and the Fiend, all of whom are heels. I am not a fan of Alexa Bliss in this role. I don\u2019t get why the Fiend came to the ring to begin with. He wasn\u2019t having a match, or talking as far as I could tell, so why was he there? Are we supposed to cheer for him? I hate his hocus-pocus schtick with the disappearing act. The injection of Fiend into the Retribution vs. Hurt Business didn\u2019t make sense. The eight man tag was ok, but ended quickly and anti-climactically with T-Bar tapping out to Bobby Lashley\u2019s full nelson. I\u2019m not a fan of the Retribution gimmick, but Mustafa Ali, Dominic Dijacovic, and Mia Yim are too talented to be jobbed out and treated like jokes. After losing the match, they were totally destroyed by Fiend. So, they are supposed to be physically imposing and threatening, yet they lost rather easily in the match and then got beat up by one guy in a stupid clown mask. I would say that Hurt Business was positioned as babyfaces here, but later in the show, they clearly were heels when they beat up Titus O\u2019Neil. So as I said, the whole thing was a big bess.<\/p>\n<p><b>Styles vs. Riddle &#8211; MISS: <\/b> Of course the wrestling action in a match between AJ Styles and Matt Riddle is going to be good. They are two very talented workers. I am also intrigued by Styles having Jordon Omogbehin in his corner. But, I didn\u2019t like the whole intimidating the referee bit. That was too prolonged. I get that the point was to make the ref look like a wimp, so in that way it worked, but that was a stupid goal. Having Riddle intimidated by him at the end of the match wasn\u2019t good either. That hurt his credibility on his first night on Raw. Of course, the fact that we got this matchup that we\u2019ve already seen before on the first post-Raw draft was a problem too (more later).<\/p>\n<p><b>Women\u2019s Fatal Four Way &#8211; MISS: <\/b> The action in this match was fine. The issue was the match itself and how it came about. The idea of a string of teams coming out to challenge Nia Jax &amp; Shayna Baszler was lame. It wasn\u2019t clear that there was going to be a match and it seemed impromptu which makes me wonder who has the power to make matches? I didn\u2019t understand why Payton Royce and Lacey Evans were a team and I hope that it is a one week thing. I didn\u2019t understand how the Riott Squad was back on Raw after getting shifted to Smackdown last week (another example of no selling the draft). The announcers didn\u2019t seem to know if this was a Title match or not. I appreciate the fact that the Champions stood tall, but in doing so, they basically buried three potential challengers in one go. They hurt the credibility of potential challengers for Asuka\u2019s Women\u2019s Title in the process, particularly someone new to Raw like Evans.<\/p>\n<p><b>Elias Concert &#8211; MISS: <\/b> I was actually impressed by the concert from Elias, but that\u2019s the problem. He is a heel. So why present him as a talented musician having piped in crowd noise sounding more positive than negative for him? He wasn\u2019t doing his normal heel trolling. They want his album to sell, so they presented him well here, but that hurts the actual storytelling in the wrestling world. He just came back. He could have come back as a babyface to help sell his album. The storyline with Jeff Hardy doesn\u2019t make sense as we know it was Sheamus who actually ran him over. So why have him be a heel?<\/p>\n<p><b>Sheamus vs. Kingston &#8211; HIT: <\/b> On a very bad show, it was nice to finally get to a Hit with this good match between Sheamus and Kofi Kingston. The mic work from New Day beforehand was strong. I like the idea of them still being friends with Big E and talking about how he\u2019ll hold up his part of New Day on Smackdown. I liked how Big E was on one of the Thunder Dome screens (the use of legends watching the show on the screens has been good overall) and how Xavier Woods pointed it out to Kingston to spur on a come back. And it was a good match that went 13 minutes and was fun to watch throughout. It was nice to see Kofi getting the win, although where do they go from here with Sheamus?<\/p>\n<p><b>Ali Promo &#8211; HIT: <\/b> This was the promo that we should have gotten from Mustafa Ali last week. He can talk and he showed it here. It was interesting that he admitted to being the hacker from Smackdown and it actually fit in with his mission statement and threats as the head of Retribution. I liked this quite a bit, but the fact that it followed the terrible beginning of the show hurt it. It lacked the punch it would have had last week. It is hard to take them seriously despite this strong promo.<\/p>\n<p><b>El Gran Gordo &#8211; MISS: <\/b> It is a shame that the Money in the Bank gimmick has been ruined by all of this silliness. That is sort of the point that The Miz and John Morrison are making, but the heels shouldn\u2019t be making good points. There were a few funny moments, but that\u2019s not the point. We can\u2019t take Otis seriously, but we can\u2019t take Miz seriously either. He\u2019s a loser. He\u2019s a goof. He\u2019s a joke too. So no matter what happens with this idiotic court case angle, I\u2019m not interested in who has the MITB briefcase. It is hurting the concept to have the briefcase \/ lunchbox in this situation. They can\u2019t even have the match happen without interjecting R-Truth and the 24\/7 stupidity into it to up the silliness quotient.<\/p>\n<p><b>Lee vs. Strowman &#8211; MISS: <\/b> This is unfortunate because it is the only fresh matchup that we are getting post-draft. There is definitely potential in a longer Keith Lee vs. Braun Strowman match, but WWE isn\u2019t ready to give that match to us yet, so last week we got an abbreviated match ending in a brawl, and this week we got a very short match which ended after a low blow from Strowman. I didn\u2019t get this at all. Were we supposed to think that the referee thought it was an accident? The announcers said that he was out of position to see it, so maybe not. But it certainly seemed like he could see it. It didn\u2019t seem accidental to me. They\u2019ve been doing something similar with Roman Reigns recently, so having Strowman mimic the bit here wasn\u2019t a good idea. I do appreciate the fact that a low blow and a kick to the face was enough to beat someone, but that didn\u2019t do anything for Lee who hasn\u2019t been presented as a big enough deal for most of his run on Raw. He got his revenge by kicking Strowman low after the match which will lead to another match, but why should I have faith that the third match will be any different than the first two?<\/p><div id=\"pwtor-1514529898\" class=\"pwtor-content pwtor-entity-placement\"><div align=\"center\" data-freestar-ad=\"__336x280 __336x280\" id=\"pwtorchcom_test_300x250\">\r\n  <script data-cfasync=\"false\" type=\"text\/javascript\">\r\n    freestar.config.enabled_slots.push({ placementName: \"pwtorchcom_test_300x250\", slotId: \"pwtorchcom_test_300x250\" });\r\n  <\/script>\r\n<\/div><\/div>\n<p><b>Orton &#8211; McIntyre &#8211; HIT: <\/b> This is a marginal Hit for strong mic work from Randy Orton. I liked the idea of him going over his history in Hell in a Cell as a way of juxtaposing his experience to McIntyre\u2019s lack of experience. He was able to tie it into his status as the legend killer. McIntyre also continues to do well in his role. This has been a good feud overall. The problem is that they killed the Cell gimmick by having McIntyre remind the audience of how easy it is to get into the cage. And then the show ended without an ending. What happened? This was still a Hit, but it would have been much better if it had just ended with McIntyre outside of the cage glaring at Orton inside it.<\/p>\n<p><b>Draft \u201cShakes Things Up\u201d &#8211; MISS: <\/b> Almost every match on this first post-draft Raw was a match between wrestlers who were already on the same show. So, it didn\u2019t feel like things were really shaken up. Hurt Business vs. Retribution were already feuding on Raw. Thank God for the draft so we can finally see Styles vs. Riddle\u2026 oh wait, they have faced before on Smackdown. We saw Smackdown women on Raw which undercuts the draft. We are getting Hardy vs. Elias who were on Smackdown together. While I enjoyed Kingston vs. Sheamus, we\u2019ve seen so many matches (mostly tag) involving those two over the last few years on Smackdown, that it wasn\u2019t new or fresh. We were also treated to the fresh match up of Miz &amp; Morrison vs. Heavy Machinery. Other than Lee vs. Strowman, nothing feels new as a result of the draft. And we know after the PPV, they will be right on to the lame Raw vs. Smackdown theme for Survivor Series which makes zero sense coming right after the draft.<\/p>\n<p><strong>RECOMMENDED:<\/strong> <a href=\"https:\/\/www.pwtorch.com\/site\/2020\/10\/19\/10-19-wwe-monday-night-raw-results-kellers-report-on-first-show-after-draft-with-retribution-vs-hurt-business-riddle-vs-styles-sheamus-vs-kingston\/\">10\/19 WWE MONDAY NIGHT RAW RESULTS: Keller\u2019s report on first show after Draft with Retribution vs. Hurt Business, Riddle vs. Styles, Sheamus vs. Kingston<\/a><\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p><em>Jon Mezzera is PWTorch.com&#8217;s WWE Hits &amp; Misses Specialist, providing his point of view for Raw and Smackdown each week. Email him at jmezz_torch@yahoo.com. 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