{"id":212453,"date":"2026-02-23T16:47:14","date_gmt":"2026-02-23T22:47:14","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.pwtorch.com\/site\/?p=212453"},"modified":"2026-02-23T16:47:14","modified_gmt":"2026-02-23T22:47:14","slug":"exclusive-pco-reveals-how-gunther-helped-him-negotiate-his-first-roh-contract-discusses-why-gunther-has-been-successful-in-wwe","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.pwtorch.com\/site\/2026\/02\/23\/exclusive-pco-reveals-how-gunther-helped-him-negotiate-his-first-roh-contract-discusses-why-gunther-has-been-successful-in-wwe\/","title":{"rendered":"EXCLUSIVE: PCO reveals how Gunther helped him negotiate his first ROH contract, discusses why Gunther has been successful in WWE"},"content":{"rendered":"<div id=\"pwtor-2165823550\" class=\"pwtor-before-content pwtor-entity-placement\"><hr \/><b>SPOTLIGHTED PODCAST ALERT (YOUR ARTICLE BEGINS A FEW INCHES DOWN)... <\/b>\r\n\r\n<iframe src=\"https:\/\/widget.spreaker.com\/player?show_id=3076978&theme=light&playlist=false&playlist-continuous=false&autoplay=false&live-autoplay=false&chapters-image=true&episode_image_position=right&hide-logo=false&hide-likes=false&hide-comments=false&hide-sharing=false&hide-download=true\" width=\"100%\" height=\"140px\" frameborder=\"0\"><\/iframe>\r\n<hr \/><\/div><p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">PCO talked about his relationship with Gunther (Walter on the indies) during a new interview available for PWTorch VIP members on Radican Worldwide. PCO broke out on the indies after facing Walter in a match at Joey Janela\u2019s Spring Break 2, which took place during WrestleMania weekend in April 2018. PCO revealed how Gunther helped him negotiate with ROH after he signed with WWE.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cWe kept in touch a while after when he was still doing a few indies. And then when he was ready to sign with WWE. ROH approached him, you know, and he gave me the figures ROH offered him and then he turned them down and he went to NXT. And then ROH called me and I knew right away where they were at with Watler. So, that was my pitch, you know? So, that was a good hint, you know.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Walter was asked if he expected to see Gunther succeed to the level he has in WWE and he said yes, as there\u2019s not much difference from being in WWE compared to being on the indies. \u201cYeah, yeah,\u201d said PCO.\u201d\u2019Cause there\u2019s not much difference from, you know, being there (WWE), like, being there or being on another stage like Joey Janela\u2019s Spring Break or PWG or any other stage. The difference, if there\u2019s one, it\u2019s even easier to be there (WWE). There\u2019s more eyes, but there&#8217;s also that helps you so much more to be in a groove, and ,you know, be into it. Like, it just makes everything easier.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cI know once I was in Puerto Rico when I went for two tryout matches before I became a Quebecer (in WWE). And, you know, after I tasted like, oh, there\u2019s catering, there\u2019s a nice five-star hotel, the limo picking me up, the VIP treatment is like, I was was almost crying going back to Puerto saying, \u2018No I don\u2019t want to lose that lifestyle, you know?\u2019\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">You can sign up to become a PWTorch VIP member and listen to PCO&#8217;s new interview on Radican Worldwide where he talks his career in WWE, TNA, ROH, and most recently JCW Lunacy <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/www.pwtorchvipinfo.com\/\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">here.\u00a0<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">You can watch PCO on JCW Lunacy. New episodes of JCW Lunacy are posted on the Psychopathic Records YouTube page every Thursday night at 7 p.m. EST. 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