{"id":222533,"date":"2026-09-18T15:51:13","date_gmt":"2026-09-18T20:51:13","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.pwtorch.com\/site\/?p=222533"},"modified":"2026-09-18T16:16:55","modified_gmt":"2026-09-18T21:16:55","slug":"cody-rhodes-reveals-idea-he-had-to-give-his-soul-to-someone-besides-the-rock-admits-he-needs-to-be-produced","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.pwtorch.com\/site\/2026\/09\/18\/cody-rhodes-reveals-idea-he-had-to-give-his-soul-to-someone-besides-the-rock-admits-he-needs-to-be-produced\/","title":{"rendered":"Cody Rhodes reveals idea he had to give his soul to someone besides The Rock, admits he needs to be produced"},"content":{"rendered":"<div id=\"pwtor-3880871292\" class=\"pwtor-before-content pwtor-entity-placement\"><hr \/><b>SPOTLIGHTED PODCAST ALERT (YOUR ARTICLE BEGINS A FEW INCHES DOWN)... <\/b>\r\n\r\n<iframe src=\"https:\/\/widget.spreaker.com\/player?show_id=3076978&theme=light&playlist=false&playlist-continuous=false&autoplay=false&live-autoplay=false&chapters-image=true&episode_image_position=right&hide-logo=false&hide-likes=false&hide-comments=false&hide-sharing=false&hide-download=true\" width=\"100%\" height=\"140px\" frameborder=\"0\"><\/iframe>\r\n<hr \/><\/div><p>Cody Rhodes said he had an idea to give Simone Johnson, who is The Rock&#8217;s daughter (former NXT GM Ava), his soul after The Rock asked for his soul on Smackdown in February 2025 during the build to WrestleMania 41.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cWhen the Final Boss asked me for my soul, I thought, you know what would\u2019ve been funny, is to relent and give my soul, but not to him,&#8221; said Rhodes during an <a href=\"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/what-do-you-wanna-talk-about-with-cody-rhodes\/id1816989347\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">interview<\/a> with Simone Johnson on the What Do You Wanna Talk About?&#8221; podcast.&#8221;This is at a time when you were the NXT General Manager, to you. I thought, &#8216;That\u2019s got legs. I\u2019ll never say a word again. She\u2019ll speak.'&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><em>ARTICLE CONTINUED BELOW&#8230;<\/em><\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<h4>Check out the latest episode of the Wade Keller Pro Wrestling Post-show covering the latest episode of Raw: <a href=\"https:\/\/www.spreaker.com\/episode\/wwe-raw-post-show-9-14-keller-weigle-talk-roman-penta-with-mega-invested-crowd-showing-what-pro-wrestling-s-peak-fan-experience-is-like--75139521\">CLICK HERE<\/a> to stream (or search \u201cwade keller\u201d on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or any other iOS or Android app to subscribe free)<\/h4>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"WWE RAW POST-SHOW (9\/14): Keller &amp; Weigle talk Roman-Penta with mega-invested crowd showing what pro wrestling's peak fan experience is like\" src=\"https:\/\/widget.spreaker.com\/player?episode_id=75139521&amp;theme=light&amp;playlist=false&amp;playlist-continuous=false&amp;chapters-image=true&amp;episode_image_position=right&amp;hide-logo=false&amp;hide-likes=false&amp;hide-comments=false&amp;hide-sharing=false&amp;hide-download=true\" width=\"100%\" height=\"200px\" frameborder=\"0\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p>John Cena ended up joining forces with The Rock after Rhodes turned down Johnson&#8217;s offer and Rhodes went on defend the WWE Undisputed Championship against Cena at WrestleMania 41. The match saw Cena beat Rhodes to become the new WWE Undisputed Champion.<\/p>\n<p>During the interview, Simone said she believes that they would have done a really good job with the angle if Rhodes had given his soul to her instead of The Rock. Rhodes said that despite what people might think, he&#8217;s open to all ideas when it comes to his character. &#8220;We would\u2019ve crushed that,&#8221; said Rhodes. &#8220;People are often like, \u2018You don\u2019t want to be a bad guy.\u2019 I\u2019m open to all things. Whatever is the best. I thought that would have been a real good spin.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Rhodes also said during the interview that despite his status as a top star in WWE, he knows he needs to be produced because most of his ideas are bad. \u201cYou\u2019ve heard this before, everybody needs to be produced,&#8221; said Rhodes. &#8220;iI\u2019m so grateful to have the people that I have in my life and in management to produce me. Nine out of ten of my ideas are bad. 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