WEEKLY OVERVIEW – ROH (thru 11/15): Cody knee update and ROH Final Battle, commentary on The Kingdom and how to fix it, noteworthy social media posts, Global Wars results, upcoming events, more

By Tyler Sage, PWTorch contributor


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The following is the latest in a new series of weekly in-depth articles exclusive to PWTorch which will help put in perspective major wrestling promotions with a weekly overview, looking at news and roster developments, results, future line-ups, social media activity, key interviews, plus a timely commentary at the end. We will be featuring similar features on other promotions each week and each will be updated weekly.


•Top Stories of the Week

  • Cody tweeted twice over the weekend about his current health status. On Saturday, Nov. 10, Cody Tweeted out the following.

https://twitter.com/CodyRhodes/status/1061185910082072576?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1061185910082072576&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.wrestlinginc.com%2Fnews%2F2018%2F11%2Fcody-rhodes-off-final-roh-global-wars-event-due-to-possible-647695%2F

  • On Sunday Cody updates his potential injury status.

  • Then Cody tweeted out the following on Monday afternoon.

  • And finally, Cody challenging Jay Lethal became official as the ROH Title match at Dec. 14’s Final Battle. It could be Cody’s last ROH match ever. He says he will win the title and take it within into free agency, an attempt to add some drama to the finish which most would assume will be Jay winning since Cody is leaving ROH. Click here for PWTorch’s story on Cody and the Being the Elite crew HERE.
  • ROH held 4 “Global Wars” events in the past week in the Northeast U.S. and in Toronto, Ontario Canada. Jay Lethal defended his ROH World Heavyweight championship against Kenny King. Along with many other high profile NJPW talent going against ROH talent. See below for a detailed report for each night of the event.


•Live Event Results

ROH Global Wars: Lewiston, Maine
November 7, 2018 (7:30 p.m.)
Lewiston, Mane at the Androscoggin Bank Colisee

This was the first of a four-night event for ROH.

  1. Flip Gordon Defeated Eli Isom at 8:00

  2. SoCal Uncensored (Frankie Kazarian and Scorpio Sky) Defeated The Bouncers (Beer-City Bruiser and Brian Milonas) at 8:45

  3. Jeff Cobb Defeated Cheeseburger at 6:22

  4. The Kingdom (Matt Taven & TK O’Ryan & Vinny Marseglia) Defeated Dalton Castle and The Boys (Boy 1 & Boy 2) at 9:19

  5. The Briscoes (Jay Briscoe and Mark Briscoe) Defeated The Elite (Cody and Hangman Page)

  6. Juice Robinson Defeated Christopher Daniels at 12:08

  7. Bully Ray and Silas Young Defeated The Young Bucks (Matt Jackson and Nick Jackson) at 16:30

  8. Los Ingobernables de Japón (Tetsuya Naito & Evil & Sanada & Bushi) Defeated Jay Lethal & Jonathan Gresham & Chris Saban & Kushida at 16:46

ROH Global Wars: Lowell, Mass.
November 8, 2018 (7:30pm)
Lowell, MA Lowell Memorial Auditorium

  1. Matt Taven Defeated Bushi at 6:55

  2. Dalton Castle and Juice Robinson Defeated The Bouncers (Beer-City Bruiser and Brian Milonas) at 11:40

  3. Flip Gordon Defeated Frankie Kazarian at 10:31

  4. Sumie Sakai Defeated Jenny Rose at 8:50

  5. Scorpio Sky Defeated Jay Briscoe at 9:59

  6. Los Ingobernables de Japón (Evil and Sanada) Defeated Bully Ray and Silas Young at 12:55

  7. Jeff Cobb Defeated Christopher Daniels at 8:28

  8. Cody Defeated Mark Briscoe at 23:32

  9. Tetsuya Naito Defeated Hangman Page at 12:45

  10. Jay Lethal and Jonathan Gresham Defeated Chris Sabin & Kushida, The Young Bucks (Matt Jackson and Nick Jackson), and The Kingdom (TK O’Ryan and Vinny Marseglia) at 12:39

ROH Global Wars: Buffalo, N.Y.
November 9, 2018 (7:30 p.m.)
Buffalo, N.Y. at the Buffalo Riverworks

  1. Dalton Castle Defeated TK O’Ryan at 7:58

  2. Kenny King Defeated Cheeseburger at 6:57

  3. Kelly Klein Defeated Madison Rayne at 7:53

  4. Kushida Defeated Jonathan Gresham, Flip Gordon and Bushi at 9:34

  5. Jeff Cobb Defeated Evil at 11:57

  6. Juice Robinson Defeated Silas Young via Disqualification at 13:12

  7. The Young Bucks (Matt Jackson and Nick Jackson) Defeated Los Ingobernables de Japón (Tetsuya Naito and Sanada) at 15:36

  8. Jay Lethal and Chris Sabin ended in a time limit draw at 15:00

  9. Best Friends (Chuckie T and Beretta) Defeated The Briscoes (Jay Briscoe and Mark Briscoe) and The Elite (Cody and Hangman Page) at 18:49

ROH Global Wars: Toronto, Ontario
November 11, 2018 (7:30pm)
Toronto, Ont. Canada at the Mattamy Athletic Centre

  1. Karren Q Defeated Kaitlin Diemond at 6:31 to qulaify for the four-cornors survival WOH Championship match at Final Battle.

  2. Adam Page Defeated Chuckie T at 10:42

  3. Los Ingobernables de Japon (Tetsuya Naito & Bushi) Defeated The Kingdom (TK O’Ryan & Vinny Marseglia) at 11:32

  4. Matt Taven Defeated Christopher Daniels at 9:36

  5. The Briscoes (Jay Briscoe and Mark Briscoe) Defeated Los Ingobernables de Japon (Sanada and Evil) at 13:54

  6. Flip Gordon Defeated Jonathan Gresham at 8:56

  7. SoCal Uncensored (Frankie Kazarian and Scorpio Sky) Defeated Super Smash Bros (Evil Uno and Stu Grayson) at 13:28 to retain the ROH World Tag-Team Championship

  8. Juice Robinson Defeated Beretta at 18:48

  9. The Young Bucks (Matt Jackson and Nick Jackson) Defeated Kushida and Chris Sabin at 15:20

  10. Jay Lethal Defeated Kenny King at 22:11 to retain the ROH World Heavyweight Championship

To see our full review of the final Global Wars event in Toronto, CLICK HERE.


•Upcoming Major Show: ROH Final Battle

ROH Final Battle
December 15, 2018 (8:00 p.m.)
New York, N.Y. at The Manhattan Center’s Hammerstein Ballroom

One match that has been made official if you are following the current television product. Three of the four participants of the WOH Championship match have been revealed on matches over the last week. As of now it will be Sumie Sakai vs. Madison Rayne vs. Karen Q vs. a yet to be named participant.

It has also leaked that Jonathan Gresham will be going against Zack Sabre Jr. in a singles match as well.


•Upcoming Events

  • Final Battle Fallout (TV Tapping) 12/15/18 in Philadelphia, Pa. at the 2300 Arena.
  • Saturday Night At Center Stage (TV Tapping) 1/12/19 in Atlanta, Ga. at Center Stage.
  • Honor Reigns Supreme (Live event streamed on HonorClub) 1/13/19 in Concord, N.C. at Cabarrus Arena.
  • Road to G1 Supercard (Live event streamed on HonorClub) 1/24/19 in Dallas, TX at Gilley’s Dallas.
  • Road to G1 Supercard (Live event streamed on HonorClub) 1/25/19 in Houston, TX at NRG Arena
  • Road to G1 Supercard (Live event streamed on HonorClub) 1/26/19 in San Antonio, TX at the Austin Highway Event Center.
  • G1 Supercard (Pay-Per-View Event) 4/6/19 in New york, N.Y. at Madison Square Garden.

All current live events are located on ROHWrestling.com


•Latest TV Highlights: 11/11/18 ROH Wrestling

ROH TV Results
Nov. 11, 2018
Taped in Philadelphia, Pa. at 2300 Arena
Airing on Sinclair Networks and ROHWrestling.com

  • Jeff Cobb Defeated Shane Taylor at 7:09

  • Jay Lethal cuts a promo on Kenny King, then transitions to his tag match with Jonathan Gresham and a mystery partner, that he claims will shock everyone.

  • Marty Scurll has a promo discussing his long and winding feud with Shane “Hurricane” Helms.

  • The Bouncers (Beer-City Bruiser and Brian Milonas) Defeated Shinobi Shadow Squad (Cheeseburger and Eli Isom w/Ryan Nova) at 6:02

  • SoCal Uncensored Stood in the ring to announce that they will be competing for the ROH World Tag-Team Championships next week. They will be taking on the Briscoes and the Young Bucks. The Briscoes came out at the end of their promo and left the team laying.

  • Dalton Castle appeared as the mystery third member of Jay Lethal and Jonathan Gresham’s team.

  • Jay Lethal & Jonathan Gresham & Dalton Castle Defeated The Kingdom (Matt Taven, TK O’Ryan, and Vinny Marseglia) at 12:41

  • After the Match it appeared and was confirmed by the commentary team that Dalton Castle had entered the championship running with Kenny King and Cody.

For our full TV report, CLICK HERE.


•ROH In The Media

  • Kenny Omega, The Young Bucks, Cody, Marty Scurll, and Adam Page were on Talk is Jericho. This episode was recorded on the Cruise of Jericho. The group talked about C.M. Punk claiming to be the locker room leader, Cody’s initial hesitation to join the Bullet Club, and what caused the downfall of Stardust.

  • Marty Scurll joined Jim Ross on the Ross Report Podcast. The two talked about the autobiography that inspired him to change his look, his future, and American wrestlers not wanting to tap out to his finisher.

Check out PWPodcasts.com for a detailed recap of these and more podcasts.


•LATEST “TALKING HONOR” PWTORCH LIVECAST COVERING ROH

“Global Wars.” This week Harley R. Pageot and Emily Fear discuss all four dates of the fall Global Wars tour including Harley’s in-person perspective on the Toronto stop. Jay Lethal defends, Joe Koff bans kendo sticks, Scorpio Sky pulls off an upset, Karen Q qualifies, guest stars impress, and what’s the deal with Rhett Titus? Plus weekly TV including a new side to The Bouncers and Jeff Cobb vs. Shane Taylor.

-On Tune In Radio HERE
-On Apple Podcasts HERE
-Or search “PWTorch” or “Pro Wrestling Torch” on your podcast app of choice

•Social Media Scene

Below is this week’s round-up of social media posts from ROH personalities.

Grab your new Madison Rayne Merch!

https://twitter.com/MadisonRayne/status/1062820794668064776

The mentions on this are actually not as terrible as you would think

If you want to be a festive wrestling fan, and confuse your family, grab one of these!

First of all Thanks for everything Stan Lee. Secondly, the Magneto costume


•Closing Commentary

This week I want to discuss The Kingdom in ROH.

First of all, I have not been watching ROH from the very beginning. Like most people I started with WWE and grew as a fan to find great promotions like ROH. All of that being said, I don’t really understand the fascination with The Kingdom.

The team itself is full of fine workers. But, beyond that I have never felt any sort of connection to any of them. Taven is billed as a top star and leader of the group, but besides his solid work in the ring I don’t really feel much of anything when he is on the mic or in a match. Maybe Taven is not made for me. I know that Taven is especially popular with the hardcore female fans of ROH. I find it concerning that Bully Ray is still the No. 1 heel in the promotion, a spot clearly designed for Taven. Taven’s lack of getting real genuine heat with the crowd, combined with a smattering of female cheering puts him in an odd space.

T.K. O’Ryan has always been a fine worker as well, but he feels like just a guy. To me Silas Young and Shane Taylor feel like higher profile people in the company. Maybe this is due to a lack of signals matches, and wins in those matches when that happens.

I feel the same about Vinny Marseglia. Besides his weird Pennywise/Bray Wyatt gimmick, which doesn’t fit with the group, and makes him seem like an add on.

I am only bringing this up because ROH is a real wrestling promotion. As a result, we should hold its creative and characters to the same standard that we do with WWE. To me, The Kingdom may not be fixable. The way I see it, there are two ways to refresh the group, and its members.

Option 1: Have Taven break away from the group, either as a face or heel, allowing him to sink or swim on his own. This would also allow the other two wrestlers to rebrand as a new tag team.

Option 2: Go all in on this current iteration of The Kingdom. The best way to get real heat with ROH’s typical fan would be to make Matt Taven the Roman Reigns of ROH. This way Taven would have real heel heat in storyline and with the fans. Make him beat everyone on the roster, let him make the ROH World Championship belt purple, give the tag team belts to T.K. and Vinny. Force Taven down the ROH fan’s throat.

Option 2 is very interesting to me. It is like creating an IWC (Internet Wrestling Community) villain in a lab. It also forces fans of ROH to look at Taven as a top guy, whether they want to or not. With the soon to be exit of a lot of the company’s top talent, this seems likes a viable option, at least to me.

I would love to hear your opinion on The Kingdom and what you think of the options I have listed. Let me know what you think @ringoftyler.


Tyler has been a wrestling fan for 20 years (a handful of years he was a lapsed fan – 2003-’08, mainly), He’s from Columbus, Ohio. Check him out on Twitter @ringoftyler and check out his podcast @tandbwrestling.


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